Popular Post SkullCollector Posted June 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Hello and welcome to the revised ACE Medical Guide: 2020 Edition. This guide aims to be a comprehensive resource for the dedicated medic; to steel yourself with knowledge first so that you can hone it in combat. It will send you on a journey to become the best medic you can be. It does not offer panacea. That's just called a packing bandage. It does offer the basis you need to understand the inner and outer workings of ACE Medical with an attempt to dispel some common myths. You can find two proven sample loadouts at the very end of the document, as well as a spreadsheet with all the data there is about bandages. For an easier read, here it is on Google Docs. Link: ACE Advanced Medical Guide v2.3 (2020 Rework) The GDoc is always going to be the most up-to-date version, but if you prefer PDF, here you are: The PDF is now very much outdated. I will update it with the 2.4 revision, which will include a flowchart and procedure. ACE Advanced Medical Guide v2.1 (2020 Rework) - 23-04-20.pdf To-do Spoiler - trim excess fat - finish treatment walkthrough with flowchart - figure out a better bookmarking system - replace bandage quick-ref with an updated version (current still viable) - calculate bandage efficiency with a time coefficient Edited May 3, 2021 by SkullCollector 2020 Rework v2.3, PDF outdated note Kacper, Kingfisher, Lost Bullet and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Bullet Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Great read (not painful at all)! Maybe add a basic bandage/personal aid kit loadout for the average Rifleman? In my opinion everyone should carry 4 tourniquets, they are light and don't take that much space but usually the average rifleman carries 0... SkullCollector and RiverWolf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSmAn Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Another excellent guide. Medic is most fun when you know what you are doing and you are able to help many people. Hopefully this guide will also help the rest know when they actually need a medic, when it's worth asking for a stitch and when you should just patch yourself up. SkullCollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah_Hero Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, SkullCollector said: a lot of numbers and spreadsheets!! Great guide! As you know I always wanted to have a guide like this with a lot of numbers and this one is perfect for that! *Edit*: 23 hours ago, SkullCollector said: The BAF Bandage Dispenser ... 1 Banana Hahaha it took me a while to actually see that! Nice one @SkullCollector Edited June 9, 2017 by Noah_Hero 1 Banana :D SkullCollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastaMasta Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just a quick question: Why would you bring plasma at all? Why not just take some more saline? There's no difference between saline, plasma and blood in ACE medical, so why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkullCollector Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, BlastaMasta said: Just a quick question: Why would you bring plasma at all? Why not just take some more saline? There's no difference between saline, plasma and blood in ACE medical, so why bother? For me it started as a flavour element, just like how I carried atropine even though it's completely redundant. However, once I switched from a mix of IVs to only saline, I noticed something peculiar: I repeatedly lost track of the amount of IVs I had on me. What carrying both kinds does is it halves the effort you spend on attention towards counting your bags. I don't look at my inventory at all, or very rarely, because I know I only have so many things on me. If you started out with 6x 500 ml bags, at any given point you may have between 1 and 6 only judging from the medical menu. Carrying 2x3 tells you at a glance that you'll always have at least 2 as long as you have both entries in the menu. If you then intentionally alternate between the two fluid types, you create a subconscious rhythm that lets you keep track of your supplies much more easily. Edit: The same applies to why I carry all three volumes instead of only 500 ml or 1000 ml. One, I can send off people with a BP of 105/78 with a single 250 ml bag, but two, I have more entries to directly remind me of my supplies -- all without ever checking my backpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastaMasta Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, SkullCollector said: For me it started as a flavour element, just like how I carried atropine even though it's completely redundant. However, once I switched from a mix of IVs to only saline, I noticed something peculiar: I repeatedly lost track of the amount of IVs I had on me. What carrying both kinds does is it halves the effort you spend on attention towards counting your bags. I don't look at my inventory at all, or very rarely, because I know I only have so many things on me. If you started out with 6x 500 ml bags, at any given point you may have between 1 and 6 only judging from the medical menu. Carrying 2x3 tells you at a glance that you'll always have at least 2 as long as you have both entries in the menu. If you then intentionally alternate between the two fluid types, you create a subconscious rhythm that lets you keep track of your supplies much more easily. Edit: The same applies to why I carry all three volumes instead of only 500 ml or 1000 ml. One, I can send off people with a BP of 105/78 with a single 250 ml bag, but two, I have more entries to directly remind me of my supplies -- all without ever checking my backpack. I see. Yeah, I stopped carrying Atropine for the same reason. Don't even get me started on the actual medical realism of the medications/medical system compared to real life.. Carrying two types of volume adds to much clutter to my backpack. But I guess that is a taste thing. The only volume I've ever run out of was 1000ml, but after that occasion I started carrying like 3 or 4 of those. You beat me to writing a guide . Was playing with the thought of doing so after seeing quite a lot of players wanting to try medic but not knowing how to effectively do so. Medic is definitely my second favourite role after vortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timo Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Great guide! I've been so busy with life and when I actually have time to play I've been putting it into learning mission making. This is kinda stuff really makes it easier for (us) new guys and encourages to jump in unfamiliar roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle-Eye Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Great guide indeed. Does anyone remember the America's Army medical training (1, 2, 3, 4)? Not saying you should do it, Skull, but something like this (interactive mission, or instruction video) for ACE's medical system would be very useful. SkullCollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindi Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Great guide, I will probably have to read through it a couple of times! ...and will probably still much it up once under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis_RVIR Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Still trying to process all of that.... *Ten minutes later* I'll stay away from medic for a while, much safer for everyone. Lindi and SkullCollector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkullCollector Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hi! I've come to update the guide. It's nothing like before. Some might argue it's better. I'll argue it consumed about a week of my life scouring the ACE medical PBOs for juicy facts. Please do enjoy. It still needs some good graphics to outline a typical emergency treatment procedure, but for now, please refer to Stan's flowcharts here: GhostDragon, Lindi and SiegeSix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minipily Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Very nice updated guide, certainly took the time to make it look nice. I like the correct wording and attention to detail. About the most I bothered with in terms of graphics last time I updated was make a triage card. Spoiler If you wanted to borrow that, go ahead, but some might not agree with it on EU3. I "inherited" that from a real world combat medical emergency triage. Noah_Hero and SkullCollector 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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