Colsta Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just an appeal to people. If you see someone crashing - or even if you don't, don't take their slot and force them to play somewhere else. In a mission with no respawns, if you see a free slot in the main force, ask if you can take a slot beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, kman said: 30 minutes waiting for server start&latecomers Welcome to EU3 game nights 6 minutes ago, kman said: 45 minutes connecting & dress-up to scavenge some mis-matched OPFOR leftover gear This is part of the point of this campaign 6 minutes ago, kman said: 15 minutes driving truck throu the woods 15 minutes coming close to the objective This isn't Gauntlet, where it takes you 5 minutes to fly to the objective 6 minutes ago, kman said: The moment we enter the village, walking with 2 teammates in front of me and 2 behind me - bang bang, instakill from god knows where. And this is Arma, unfortunately. 6 minutes ago, kman said: spectator mode bugs after 30 seconds and no longer works with nighvision (only pitch black is seen) First time I've heard of this bug, and I'll look into it. 6 minutes ago, kman said: If I can plead for some changes with Ryko: Please spawn players with pre-loaded gear. I'd love to, but there's no practical way to make this happen when part of the point of this campaign is to manage supplies between operations. Quote Please don't wait for players who are not online in time, or did not downloaded their MODS in advance. Give the slots to replacements right away. We'll try and speed up slot assignment next time, but as you can imagine, it's not easy. I'd like to re-iterate that this operation is meant to be slower-paced, more considered, ie., nothing like what Gauntlet has turned into. - R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentes Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 During the post-mission talk, we discussed methods of trying to alleviate the gearing-up issue. It should be less of a hassle next op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjeltring Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Have to say i like the slow paced-dont have infinite equipment/ammo- type of gameplay.. Feels like you have more to loose.. (Or gain, depending on how you look at it!) Thank you for organizing it Ryko! -Undea Lone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkod Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, kman said: 30 minutes waiting for server start&latecomers 45 minutes connecting & dress-up to scavenge some mis-matched OPFOR leftover gear 15 minutes driving truck throu the woods 15 minutes coming close to the objective This is the biggest issue, and not only in gamenights, but in EU3 in general - too much wasted time. It could be from technical issues, mission setting, mission planning, movement, etc. Another issue is that the obective was way too easy. So all that time we wasted earlier wasn't rewarded by an interesting mission/objective/firefight either. We had ~20players assaulting a town with <20ai: I was part of Bravo (Recon) and I only saw 2 static AI on top of a roof, 2 AI patrolling and a couple of manned vehicles. There probably were some extra AI that I didn't see, but not many. That town could've been cleared with a single fireteam, especially considering it was night time, we had NVGs and AI didn't; hell, at that point it could've been cleared by a single man if he knew what he was doing. But at least this time we had decent-good FPS, so that's an improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPSradical Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Other than that I believe this was enjoyable op from bot sides. I heard that the Blufor had an Amazing time with their stealth gameplay and overall it was 10/10. On the Independent side, I enjoy the occasional action along with the engagement as we did not have night vision so it was very tense. We had to rely on other means of spotting enemies using flairs etc! Plz allow us to stuff their ears with jungle leaves b/c shot hurt our ears. Overall I would like to thank @Ryko for not forgetting about us and occasionally giving us something to do 10/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPSradical Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Also, you guys might want to get the Spec 4 Gear mod in before the next op as it adds in ranger themed vest that fits the OP perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colsta Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 @KPSradical Mod requests have a special sub-forum found here. As you can see though, it already has been requested and is currently under public discussion, you can go there and give your own opinion, if you'd like. KPSradical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPSradical Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 @Colsta I know it was requested I linked it as a reference so ryko knew what I was talking about. Also no, its locked now and under review of the steering community so commenting is over. Just put it out there just in case they forgot that it does have the ranger vest that they might want. Thanks for the intended help. Colsta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, Arkod said: Another issue is that the obective was way too easy. It's up to Skull and the team leaders to decide what objectives will be tackled and how. When I designed the op I gave him five objectives. Each team could have taken one, but then, each team might have gotten decimated. Balancing scenarios so that it's both exciting for the players and not too overwhelming is extremely difficult in ArmA. From what I saw, more people died due to friendly fire, ArmA physics, and accidents than from enemy fire, though that did happen. I'll admit that I kind of expected there to be two objectives tackled at the same time, but that's not my call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPSradical Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 FWI! DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECORDING FROM TODAYS OPERATION ON THE BLUFOR SIDE! I am really interested in seeing your pov! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On the topic of objective being too fast completed - that is exactly where more faster start would help, because we would be able to do (have time for) 2 objectives in one night instead of just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentes Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, kman said: On the topic of objective being too fast completed - that is exactly where more faster start would help, because we would be able to do (have time for) 2 objectives in one night instead of just one. 10 hours ago, Amentes said: During the post-mission talk, we discussed methods of trying to alleviate the gearing-up issue. It should be less of a hassle next op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Only bad thing about op was gear, Needs to be shared more consistently through teams. Delta ended up with akms and about 1 mag each. Apart from that was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 For the next op I'll be providing an inventory list ahead of time so Lone (in conjunction with Intel sergeants?) will be able to create squad specific crates so that the last-served don't get shafted. I'm also investigating a script which supports state saving, which would be the ideal solution. Danny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colsta Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Wouldn't Alive be a better option there, @Ryko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 ALiVE doesn't always work reliably. Recall MSO Godhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkullCollector Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Colsta said: Wouldn't Alive be a better option there, @Ryko? I would love to see ALiVE used here as well, but unfortunately persistence across server restarts requires all players to register on the War Room. Sure, everyone could just dump all their stuff in a crate again, but then we're back at where we are. Additionally, I'm not sure if the module plays well with swapped slots. I've had players in different slots than before just load the profile from the previous occupant, but I didn't pay much attention to that and ended up forcing slots -- not ideal here. If you can find a realistic way to coerce gently convince everyone to sign up for the War Room, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentes Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Considering Lone has volunteered to do the dirty work of actually doling out the available gear, I'd say that's a better option than saving the inventory if each soldier. Reasoning being, some squads will expend more consumables than others, so in the end some sort of sharing would have to be happening anyway. Moreover, depending on the tasks given to different teams, gear such as explosives, suppressors, special purpose weaponry etc. is gonna have to be moved around as needed. And I'm still willing to help Lone in any way I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutvys Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 But that different squads will expend more consumables than others is cool. CO and XO will need to do some thinking when picking what squad to do what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentes Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Or, you know, the TL would just go, "Hey, we shot a helluva lot yesterday, can some of you boys who didn't shoot as much spare some ammo over here?" Point being, this is what's gonna happen anyway. Ammo can be shared between people, but again, then we're back into having to actually do that prior to moving out. Which is exactly what people want to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 On 30/09/2016 at 10:46 PM, kman said: 15 minutes driving truck throu the woods *listening to Duffy rave on and crash into a tree *FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 For the curious, this is the code I'll be experimenting with: https://github.com/tawsidthesloth/mission-persistence-framework In the ideal scenario, each role will save its position and gear, and ammo boxes will have their gear saved as well. This would also allow that players who disconnect could rejoin in the same state. For spectator mode, my intention would be that if you die, you get pushed to spectator mode, with the capacity to move you out of spectator mode if you died due to arma physics or whatnot. Also if we can do more than one op and you're still around. Finally I am going to try the dynamic that if you die you can result as independent to provide reinforcement to resistance scenarios. - R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryko Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Quote spectator mode bugs after 30 seconds and no longer works with nighvision (only pitch black is seen) This works fine for me. There are four vision modes in spectator: normal, nightvision, white-hot thermal and black-hot thermal. Is it possible that you switched to thermal and thought it was pitch black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentes Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 On 1/10/2016 at 2:31 PM, Ryko said: For the next op I'll be providing an inventory list ahead of time so Lone (in conjunction with Intel sergeants?) will be able to create squad specific crates so that the last-served don't get shafted. I'm gonna suggest that the crates be embellished a little bit, actually. Way I see it, we were all supposed to put our gear in there, which means there should have been a weapon for each person. Turns out there wasn't. I think it'd be reasonable to add a few M4s in there so that we don't get that situation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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