Appeltaart Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Ingame Name*: Appeltaart Why do you think you were banned?: I have no idea, I can't really tell but hopefully someone can help me to understand what I've done wrong. Why (in your personal opinion) should your ban be lifted?*: I don't care if my ban gets lifted or not. I want to make my point right here because things are not going in this community how they are supposed to be. Which administrator banned you (ArmA 3 only)?: Cain Trigger. When were you banned?*: 01-09-2015 19:20+- [GMT + 2:00] First of all. I want to talk about what EU3 has become. I really enjoy playing it for the past 1.5 years. The dev's on EU 3 do an excellent job in finding the right modpacks and make it more realistic by the week. But in those years people come by and go. The swearing and toxicness of people increase by the day aswell, what makes it unable to play for me as a team on this server. I think some ex- people of the community can tell the same. I know it is rough for the admins to deal and decide what to do in those kind of situations. But how i got threated? no. you can't do that to someone. You are part of a community where you have to take care for and make it for everyone a place where the can socialize and have fun. So randomly banning people WITHOUT having any evidence is out of my book. I have the best for this community but i'm giving up the war against this right now. Here's what happend: There happend a LOT of toxicness before this recording. I'm using Shadowplay and only record my last 15 minutes. The swearing was intense before the recording. I joined the game while the toxicness was going as likely always. The Admin; In my opinion he has the duty to EXPLAIN to me why I got banned. But instead of that he bans me from TS aswell. After that my friend who was with me (Tim) asked him why? Instead of explaining he threatens my friend by saying this: <199:38> "ReAKT": Hey, the ''Appeltaart'' Guy u just banned, wasnt talking in game, it was the guy sitting next to me that was trolling in his chair <19:10:15> "Cain 'Trigger'": So are you saying I should ban you instead? This can be considdert as NON-evidence due the lack of a screenshot. I understand. I don't know if he was defending the guy who was acting like a scumbag. I can't tell. I hope I've explained this situation good enough with my poor English performance. Like I said, I have the best for this community. I am asking to take this advice/(case) giving to higher up support. I want to thank everyone for the great time I had. Spending on EU3. And thanks to all the great EU players who still can behave theirselves. Kind regards, Quinten Bak, The Netherlands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Cain was under instructions from above to ban you as you were permanently banned from here in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appeltaart Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Cain was under instructions from above to ban you as you were permanently banned from here in the past. This situation happend before. About half a year ago I got banned for someone with the same username. I contacted an admin and he solved the problem out for me. I asked if I was still able to use the same username and he told me yes you can. So I continued with the same username and there haven't been a problem until now. If this really is the case I'm suprised that noone of the admins noticed this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_S Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I've watched your video and as such am looking into the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm going to call you out on that statement. If there is any grey areas within administration or special cases (which is what you've described) then we would have a record of that in the admin forums. I can't believe an admin said you could use a banned members name and then not tell any one of us about that. If you choose to stick by that story, please name and shame the admin here and we'll investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razgriz33 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Cain was following an order from me. Your name reminded a few of us of a situation with a user called appeltaart who also went with another name we can't quite remember. If you could provide any information as to what happened last time that would help us and you out a lot. be it what month, day, any names that pop into your head. Anything. If this is a case of mistaken identity I'm sorry, however we have to be vigilant on the offchance you are the trouble maker from past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appeltaart Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm going to call you out on that statement. If there is any grey areas within administration or special cases (which is what you've described) then we would have a record of that in the admin forums. I can't believe an admin said you could use a banned members name and then not tell any one of us about that. If you choose to stick by that story, please name and shame the admin here and we'll investigate. I'm sorry to tell already that I can't blame the admin who helped me. I can't rember who helped me. I know that this issue of "I can't remember his name" makes it a LOT harder to solve. I'm also wondering. If I could be the other guy named "Appeltaart" how am I able to join the Teamspeak 3 server and the EU3 server again? I am going to call this "weird" but, isn't it a common duty for an admin who takes CARE such a great community. to make a back-up list from atleast the banlist? check people their unique ID on ts? In my opinion you just can't people ban on their names. What if I pretend to be somone? This an admin job to find out what really is going on. It is a high priority to let community member feel safe and can put all their trust in the admins of a server. They chose to take care of a community. so they have their responsibilities. I am willing to help and coöperate with everything you guys say to solve this maybe (common issue) out. Cain was following an order from me. Your name reminded a few of us of a situation with a user called appeltaart who also went with another name we can't quite remember. If you could provide any information as to what happened last time that would help us and you out a lot. be it what month, day, any names that pop into your head. Anything. If this is a case of mistaken identity I'm sorry, however we have to be vigilant on the offchance you are the trouble maker from past. I understand this is really hard for you guys to solve out. It's not really about the ban anymore but I'm trying to tell that you guys have to organise a bit more. I'm not saying that you guys are doing a "bad" job. don't get me wrong. I'm trying to help so something like this doesn't overcome another community member issues like this. I've seen you guys growing by the day and that is amazing to see! what i kind of don't understand is that some of you don't rember my voice because i played a lot with you guys in the past... I know the trouble of running a community. runned one myself in the past. And I fully understand that you guys put hard work in here. and all of you are doing a great job at it! but the community is growing. you have to keep things more organise if you want to grow even bigger. take all of this as an advice. nothing more. I fully understand that this doesn't get me anywhere further in the case. but I'm trying to help and make my point. you guys are in charge and making the calls. It would be lovely to solve this out but without any evidence it won't get my further. I am trying my best on this topic. I want the best for this community. Like I said. I can't help any furhter with names, dates etc. My apolagize for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zissou Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 You, eyepopper and the price brothers have form on our servers and have been warned about your behaviour several times before. Why all of a sudden do you expect to get the benefit of the doubt from us now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appeltaart Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 You, eyepopper and the price brothers have form on our servers and have been warned about your behaviour several times before. Why all of a sudden do you expect to get the benefit of the doubt from us now? After the stuff happening with the price guys, i changed my playstlye on the server and TS, never got warned whatsoever after that, so what is there to doubt about? as u can see in the video, I didnt do anything wrong in the video. I know my behavior from the past what we can call a LONG time ago wasn't how you're supposed to react. I can't see any wrong behavior in that vid. if you can please expain to me. I am wondering who is the assgined person to help me at the moment and solve this? at this moment I'm feel like talking to a bunch of admins who tell eachother to write something. I am asking 1 Admin, or assigned person to help me. I'ts really uncomfortable to talk to more then 1 person. I understand you guys (maybe) discuss with eachother. but all I'm asking to let 1 guy talk to make things clear. and what I'm supposed to do with giving furhter information. tim641 and Josh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razgriz33 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Okay, you've provoked a passionate response obviously, if you are struggling to understand what's happening I'll tell you. You were re-banned on the first of September, the reason for this is because your name popped up and sparked previous troubles connected to your name. Upon further investigation we found a record of you and three others were banned on the 28th of October. From my last post to you I've been very hard at work behind the scenes trying to find as much out about this incident as possible. About half a year ago I got banned for someone with the same username. The reason you were banned back in October was in fact for VON spam, purposeful team killing and unreasonable behaviour. therefore the above statement was a lie. We've concluded you are the same person linked with the Price brothers and as we have no record of you or the brothers giving any ban appeal (but we do have a record at the time for another user's ban appeal that was connected to your ban) you will remain banned until appealing for your previous ban. Believe me, I've tried every avenue to gather information on this case. I've trawled for hours looking for facts and this is what i've come up with. To summarise, you and 2 others have not filed an appeal since your last ban which was for legitimate reasons, you've lied to us and called us careless when you have no idea how many man hours I am prepared to give you a fair case. PiranhA and Josh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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