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Items that could perhaps be added to I&A3


Stryker990

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After playing I&A3 for a few weeks now ive compiled a small list of Items that i feel could be in I&A and to that end i submit this list for consideration:

  • Laser Designator (Hex) and Laser Designator (Green Hex): Now b4 somebody says we already got the NATO ones, you are right however the CSAT lazors are different to the NATO versions in that they have 1x-20x zoom compared to the 5x-25x zoom of the NATO versions.
  • Titan Compact Colors: We currently only have the Tropic and Sand Versions i would like have the Olive unlocked in the Arsenal and if possible the unblacklisting of the CSAT launchers so we can pick them up in the field which i feels should be possible since we already got many of the CSAT colored Weapons including the RPG-42 as well as the ability to pick up enemy hex-color backpacks (if possible the AA titan colors as well)
  • Vests:
    • EOD Vests: They are the same in terms of Protection as the Carrier GL Rig's and the GA Carrier GL Rig's however the EOD's have less load capacity but also a reduced weight which might prove usefull (ive found at least 1 of my loadouts that would benefit from it)
    • GA Carrier Lite and GA Carrier Rig: now i understand the reason we dont have them is that they are only available in Digital which is AAF Camo however they would provide more options since they arent just stat clones of others vest like the CTRG rigs are clones of the normal Carrer lite and Carrier Rig
    • Gendarmerie Vest and/or Tactical Vest (Police) now the Gendarmerie/Police Vests are a bit more contentious since they are kinda civilian Vests they however have increased Protection compared to the normal Tactical Vests without increasing the load which would give more Options to the player (you might not need more gear but would like a bit more Protection)

now none of those items are essential Items to play I&A but in the end im a person that like to have as many options available as possible, so i hope some of those can be added and sorry if its a bit messy i wrote this at like 3am b4 going to bed.

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5 hours ago, Stryker990 said:

Laser Designator (Hex) and Laser Designator (Green Hex): Now b4 somebody says we already got the NATO ones, you are right however the CSAT lazors are different to the NATO versions in that they have 1x-20x zoom compared to the 5x-25x zoom of the NATO versions.

They were removed from the arsenal because they are CSAT equipment and we're fighting CSAT.  I'm well aware that there's several other pieces of CSAT equipment in the arsenal, I'm not particularly happy about that.  Now I'm not saying I won't add them but it needs some more convincing, just having different zoom levels doesn't justify it for me. 

 

5 hours ago, Stryker990 said:

Titan Compact Colors: We currently only have the Tropic and Sand Versions i would like have the Olive unlocked in the Arsenal and if possible the unblacklisting of the CSAT launchers so we can pick them up in the field which i feels should be possible since we already got many of the CSAT colored Weapons including the RPG-42 as well as the ability to pick up enemy hex-color backpacks (if possible the AA titan colors as well)

As I said, not particularly happy about those CSAT weapons.  But while working on Liberation I've messed with their arsenal restrictions a bit and think I can make the arsenal whitelist work so you can't take them out of the arsenal but can take them off of the ground.  I make no promises though.

 

5 hours ago, Stryker990 said:

EOD Vests: They are the same in terms of Protection as the Carrier GL Rig's and the GA Carrier GL Rig's however the EOD's have less load capacity but also a reduced weight which might prove usefull (ive found at least 1 of my loadouts that would benefit from it)

The EOD vests are already in the arsenal for explosive specialists and maybe the engineer as well, can't remember.

 

5 hours ago, Stryker990 said:

GA Carrier Lite and GA Carrier Rig: now i understand the reason we dont have them is that they are only available in Digital which is AAF Camo however they would provide more options since they arent just stat clones of others vest like the CTRG rigs are clones of the normal Carrer lite and Carrier Rig

Again, enemy equipment, I'm not saying I won't add them but them just looking nice isn't justifying it for me.

 

5 hours ago, Stryker990 said:

Gendarmerie Vest and/or Tactical Vest (Police) now the Gendarmerie/Police Vests are a bit more contentious since they are kinda civilian Vests they however have increased Protection compared to the normal Tactical Vests without increasing the load which would give more Options to the player (you might not need more gear but would like a bit more Protection)

These will be in the next update:

 

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A bit late but here is some additional stuff about my points and while perhaps not more reason to add some things i wanted to go into a tiny bit more detail on them since some points are almost like "its different add it" without going to much into detail why i want them.

 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, Stanhope said:
On 4/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, Stryker990 said:

Laser Designator (Hex) and Laser Designator (Green Hex): Now b4 somebody says we already got the NATO ones, you are right however the CSAT lazors are different to the NATO versions in that they have 1x-20x zoom compared to the 5x-25x zoom of the NATO versions.

They were removed from the arsenal because they are CSAT equipment and we're fighting CSAT.  I'm well aware that there's several other pieces of CSAT equipment in the arsenal, I'm not particularly happy about that.  Now I'm not saying I won't add them but it needs some more convincing, just having different zoom levels doesn't justify it for me. 

I cant argue that they are CSAT equipment and i can understand that some people just dont like CSAT gear available or people just want to prevent teamkills by reducing the chances of players looking like enemy however i feel that ship has already sailed with examples like the Avenger series of Helmet (which while not CSAT as Russian isnt part of CSAT are quite similar to them in appearance) and CSAT colored version of a weapons and vehicles available to the playerbase and adding 2 bino wont make much of difference. Additionaly i would argue the chances of somebody proceeding to TK another player just because that person has a hex/green hex laser designator are quite low espescially since that person has to have his Binos out at that moment.

 

Now while i cant give more reasons to add them as the only real difference between them not counting outside looks is the zoomlevel and how the scope looks when using it however i can at least go into a bit more detail why id want to use them over the NATO ones.

As stated in my original post the NATO laser has a zoomrange of 5x to 25x and the CSAT laser 1x to 20x, and on first glance one could ask why you wanted to loose that extra zoom the NATO laser provides, however in most situations one does not need that zoom since its a minimal difference between them.

The minimum zoom however is another story entirely as that zoom would provide one with a far greater field of view compared to the NATO laser, making observation of the battlefield far easier.

 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, Stanhope said:
On 4/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, Stryker990 said:

Titan Compact Colors: We currently only have the Tropic and Sand Versions i would like have the Olive unlocked in the Arsenal and if possible the unblacklisting of the CSAT launchers so we can pick them up in the field which i feels should be possible since we already got many of the CSAT colored Weapons including the RPG-42 as well as the ability to pick up enemy hex-color backpacks (if possible the AA titan colors as well)

As I said, not particularly happy about those CSAT weapons.  But while working on Liberation I've messed with their arsenal restrictions a bit and think I can make the arsenal whitelist work so you can't take them out of the arsenal but can take them off of the ground.  I make no promises though.

 

I mean the "Titan Compact (Olive)" in terms of gameplay is exactly the same as all the other titan compacts making that request solely about looking good compared to my other points but then again there is no real reason not to add it.

 

Regarding the CSAT colored launchers if you manage to make it that we can pick up enemy launchers and not load them in in the arsenal thats all i asked since on my end i tend to scavenge a RPG-42 if i run out of Titan ammo (and i dont find a enemy heavy AT CSAT) but having the option to switch back to the Titan by picking up a enemy one later would be great.

 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, Stanhope said:
On 4/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, Stryker990 said:

EOD Vests: They are the same in terms of Protection as the Carrier GL Rig's and the GA Carrier GL Rig's however the EOD's have less load capacity but also a reduced weight which might prove usefull (ive found at least 1 of my loadouts that would benefit from it)

The EOD vests are already in the arsenal for explosive specialists and maybe the engineer as well, can't remember.

As i understand it the reason the EOD vests are only available to EOD/Explosives specialists is because the name implies exclusivity to EOD type personel. However all infantry classes have access the "Carrier GL Rig" and the "GA Carrier GL Rig", which not only have the same Armorprotection as the EOD Vests and imply by theyre name that they are exclusive to grenadiers but also going by the design of the EOD Vest is itself a striped down (and a bit worn out looking) version of the "GA Carrier GL Rig (Olive)" which as mentioned is available to all classes so I would ask that they too are made available to all infantry classes.

 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, Stanhope said:
On 4/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, Stryker990 said:

GA Carrier Lite and GA Carrier Rig: now i understand the reason we dont have them is that they are only available in Digital which is AAF Camo however they would provide more options since they arent just stat clones of others vest like the CTRG rigs are clones of the normal Carrer lite and Carrier Rig

Again, enemy equipment, I'm not saying I won't add them but them just looking nice isn't justifying it for me.

Now going by your reply there i might have made my point a bit confusing to discern why i wish those 2 to be added.

Before going to explanation of why i think they should be added, i want to bring up the point about it being enemy equipment.

While it is true thoses Vests are primarily worn by AAF soldiers, the FIA a NATO backed Guerilla Faction as well as the British supported and CSAT hostile Altis Government Loyalist have access to those vests.

 

Now on to the Reason id like to see those Vests added and it has less to do with looking good and more with the fact that similarly to the EOD Vests the "GA Carrier Lite" has the same Armorprotection as the "Carrier Lite" but a reduced loadcapacity and with that reduced overall weight.

The "GA Carrier Rig" is the same as the "GA Carrier Lite" but at the expense of higher weight it has a plate at the groin area providing a bit more Protection in that area (please in mind that the "Modular Carrier GL Rig" is a slightly superior but DLC locked version of this Vest in terms of Stats)

 

To summerize: the "GA Carrier Lite" lies between the "Tactical Vest (Police)"/"Gendarmerie vest" and the heavier "Carrier Lite" in terms of armor to weigh ratio giving the player more flexibity to customize his loadout, and while we already have a superior version of the "GA Carrier Rig" if it gets added it would give players without that DLC a option to avoid the DLC watermark.

 

On 4/17/2020 at 8:55 AM, Stanhope said:
On 4/17/2020 at 3:13 AM, Stryker990 said:

Gendarmerie Vest and/or Tactical Vest (Police) now the Gendarmerie/Police Vests are a bit more contentious since they are kinda civilian Vests they however have increased Protection compared to the normal Tactical Vests without increasing the load which would give more Options to the player (you might not need more gear but would like a bit more Protection)

These will be in the next update:

Which is nice and sorry i didnt see the post that requested those.

 

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Alright, I've talked about this with the people in charge:

  • Laser designators: no
  • Titans: you will be able to pick them up in the field, not from the arsenal
  • EOD vests: will be added to all infantry roles
  • GA Carrier Lite: no
  • Gendarmerie Vest: already being added
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